Тут у меня почему-то возникло чуство, что имеет место быть определенное взаимонепонимание ситуации... Поэтому попробую таки к цифрам перейти...
Сравним потери и подтвержденные победы сторон.
Вводная для американской стороны: During the Vietnam War, F-4C crews claimed the destruction of 22 MiGs with Sidewinders,
14 with Sparrows, four with gunfire,
and two by causing the MiGs to crash while maneuvering.
The F-4D eventually destroyed 45 enemy aircraft
The F-4E was credited with 21 MiG kills during the war.
10 were brought down by Sparrows,
five with gunfire, four with Sidewinders,
one with a combination of Sidewinder and gunfire,
and one while maneuvering (no weapons being fired).
During the Southeast Asia conflict,
a total of 442 USAF F-4s (plus 83 RF-4Cs) were lost.
33 of these were shot down by MiGs, 30 were lost to SAMs, and 307 were
lost to AAA and small arms fire. Nine were destroyed on the ground during
enemy mortar and sapper attacks, and 63 were lost in various accidents.
A total of 107.5 MiGs were claimed by Phantom crews during the Southeast Asia war
By the time fighting ended in 1973, Navy F-4 crews had shot down 40 enemy aircraft.
When forced to fight, the F-105D did manage to shoot down 27 1/2 enemy fighters
during the course of 1966 and 1967.
Most of these kills were by the 20-mm Vulcan cannon, although two were downed by Sidewinders.
On the other side, seventeen F-105s claimed by the North Vietnamese
to have been downed by MiGs have been correlated with known USAF air-to-air losses.
North Vietnam also claims that an additional 10 F-105s acknowledged by the USAF
to have been lost to ground fire or other causes were actually lost to MiGs, plus
another 13 where no loss has been acknowledged by the USAF.
At least three Navy Crusaders were lost to MiGs, all of them being the F-8E fighter version.
For a time, the Crusader was the leading MiG-killer over Vietnam, accounting for a total
of 18 confirmed victories.
All of the Crusader MiG kills (with the possible exception of two or three) were made by the Sidewinder air-to-air missile. There were only two "guns-only" MiG kills by Crusader pilots.
Предварительные итоги: Потеряно в воздушных боях: 63 (плюс 13 возможных) самолета (F-4, F-105, F-8)
Подтвержденные победы: 193.
Общая статистика по применению оружия: AIM-7: 24
AIM-9: 44
Gun: 36
Man. Kill: 3
Статистика по применению оружия Фантомами: AIM-7: 24
AIM-9: 26
Gun: 9
Man. Kill: 3
Вводная для северо-вьетнамской стороны: За восемь лет войны северо-вьетнамские истребители, летавшие на МиГ-17, МиГ-21, а также эпизодически на МиГ-19 китайского производства, провели в общей сложности 480 воздушных боев, сбив 350 самолетов противника и потеряв 131 своих. Соотношение как 2,3:1.
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